Electric Tricycle Shopping: Which Will She Choose? Senior Woman Tries E Trikes for the First Time

Marita: You know, like, if you're running the Trader Joe's, it's like you've got to take up a lot of space. And I know the turns are more of a 90-degree thing than just leaning over.

Dustin: Yeah, not necessarily 90 degrees. It's like driving a U-Haul. You want to, like, you know, be aware of the tail end of it. Can I ask you what drew you to this one versus our other trikes?

Chris: To me, I just like the fact that it had the gear. That was seven-speed.

Dustin: Okay. Because this one is seven speeds too.

Chris: Right. But it also had a non-electric option.

Dustin: Got it. Okay.

Marita: And why did you ask that?

Dustin: Because we have a lot of different trikes, so I'm just kind of curious, like, I want to hear what you're trying to get out of it, and then…

Marita: He's trying to give me a birthday present, and I'm trying to think... Is this gonna wind up like the stair climber and the rower? You know what I'm saying?

Chris: Totally fine. Let’s put it this way. It's unopened in a box in our living room right now. So we're within our 30-day window.

Dustin: Oh, this is in there?

Chris: Yes. This, yeah. The exact model.

Dustin: Oh, okay. Okay, gotcha.

Chris: So we came down to see it before we opened it.

Marita: Whether this is the one or yeah…

Dustin: Okay, so... Driving a trike is much different.

Marita: Yes.

Dustin: I just say that to anyone because don't be deterred if it's... Some people get on, it's very easy. Other people get on and it's a little more challenging to get the hang of it. Usually, within 20 minutes, everybody's got the hang of it. But I don't want you to get on and be like deterred by it.

Marita: No, no. Because I was the one who said to him, we were in Amsterdam and we saw a million bikes and people had trikes. And I was like, maybe that's what I can have is a trike. 

Dustin: Sure.

Chris: And my name's Chris.

Dustin: Chris, Dustin.

Chris: Dustin, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

Marita: Marita.

Dustin: Marita, nice to meet you. So, yeah, you can, this, this is, use this brake. This is your rear brake, just so you know. And then your gears shift by twisting this right here.

Marita: Uh-huh.

Dustin: So you can do that as little or as much as you want. Let me put that into a lower gear for you so it'll be a little easier for you to pedal. Yeah. Yeah.

Marita: I’m going to do what I would.

Chris: As you always do.

Dustin: And I can adjust the seat or the handlebars. And try to stay away from the slopey areas too.

Marita: Thank you.

Dustin: So I can see her like leaning.

Chris: Uh-huh, right, because if you do something you don’t know, but like instinct on a bike is to lean.

Dustin: Exactly.

Marita: Right, right, right. I was like, it feels, you know, I’m wobbling. So it feels..

Chris: Right. Is she in her highest gear right now?

Dustin: She's in the easiest-to-pedal gear.

Marita: Yeah, he’s a mad biker. He’ll go 100 couple hundred miles a week. I’m like, like I said, I want to go toward the car.

Dustin: Do you want to try the electric?

Marita: A little scared.

Dustin: So let me let me show you a safer easier way to use it without pedaling. So this is your don't press this right now. Put it in zero. So when this is in zero, the motor will not be engaged at all. So at this point, you can play with it. So that's like a gas pedal on a car. So when you hit it you want to be like easing into it and you don't want to like come down like this reason I say everybody that gets on it, the first instinct is just to jam on that thing. So you just want to ease into it and you can just get a feel for the electric when you when pedaling after you make a full rotation, there's a sensor down there. If you have it in the pedal assist mode, it'll kick in. So you don't have to pedal though. When you hit this throttle, just keep your feet.

Marita: Like if I were standing here now. And I just want to take off. But I didn't want to pedal at all. Would it go?

Dustin: Correct. Once we put it into one. Do you want me to put it into one for you?

Marita: Yeah.

Dustin: Yeah. And just ease it, just like you would a gas pedal in the car. Yep.

Chris: And how many levels are there?

Dustin: There are five.

Marita: How fast does one go? At one.

Dustin: So there are a lot of variables and the rider weight is the number one variable. Your max speed is about 13, 14 miles an hour.

Marita: Now if I one stop I just stop.

Dustin: And when you hit the brakes, it'll kill the motor on e-bikes.

Marita: Okay.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: That's good.

Dustin: Yeah.

Chris: And remember, you have two brakes.

Marita: But it doesn't, I know he said.

Dustin: This one's a little soft. So I just want her to use the rear one more.

Marita: And now that it's gone to zero here.

Dustin: That's your miles per hour.

Marita: Right.

Dustin: So this is your assistance. That's your miles per hour. So you can put this back into zero and then this can go all the way to five.

Marita: No. Hahaha. Because it feels like, again, I am wobbling, which is my problem, and already this is like, I am going to be… Okay, so.

Dustin: Yeah. I think there's a, there's, you have to trust the tricycle. That's what I see a lot of people, is that they forget that they've got two wheels back here. And just having faith that you'll be balanced. A couple of other pointers are don't accelerate into turns on trikes. On bikes, you kind of want to accelerate into the turn. So on a trike, I always stop pedaling or ease off, make the turn, and then start to accelerate on my way out of the turn.

Marita: Okay.

Dustin: It's my number one tip. And another cool thing is if you can hit this, help you get going, then let off, and then you can pedal. So that's another thing a lot of people like..

Chris: To get started. 

Dustin: Yeah.

Chris: What does it take to topple?

Marita: Shut up! Hahaha.

Dustin: I think the turning is going to be your biggest thing and how responsible you are with, you know…

Chris: How to ride.

Dustin: Yeah, I mean that's just the key to a trike just developing the weight-shifting ability. It's not a lean.

Chris: Right.

Dustin: It's the shifting. It's more of a butt cheek shifting.

Chris: Right.

Marita: You want to try this?

Chris: Sure.

Marita: I like it. It’s less heavy than I thought it would be.

Chris: Okay.

Marita: I was better than you.

Chris: You were. How far does this tire go?

Dustin: You've got another like six inches.

Marita: You told him not to go sloppy, he’s still going sloppy immediately.

Dustin: Well, I say it to anyone. If he seems confident, I'll let him go. We do a lot of test rides here. We have a lot of videos and sometimes people get sucked into this. And I have people that forget that you need to turn the wheel on the tricycle.

Marita: He's already riding it like I will never ride it. Everything where we are is small and narrow and, you know, the Hollywood way. I'm talking about going to the Toluca Lake.

Dustin: Uh-huh.

Marita: Trader Joe's. In terms of the profile…

Dustin: Do you go to the Toluca Lake Trader Joe's?

Marita: Yes.

Dustin: Oh, I know exactly where that is. Okay.

Chris: On Riverside?

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: I could walk there. It's a long walk. But I would prefer to ride there, let's say. 

Dustin: Yeah, it's a flat around there.

Marita: Oh, no, it's super flat. I'm not worried about hills. But two things. Like, you can't just pick a bike up and take it anywhere very easily. That's one thing.

Dustin: True.

Marita: But the other thing is, you know, when you're competing, it's getting more and more congested there, right? So, like, how people already are pissed off at bikers. I'm pissed off at bikers most of the time. Like, you know, will this be cumbersome? I mean, it's really beautiful, and I do.

Dustin: I don't think so, honestly. I mean, so I have three kids. I ride that thing with my kids on the back.

Marita: Uh-huh.

Chris: The Rickshaw?

Dustin: The rickshaw, yeah. Yeah. You know, the bike, this can easily fit into a bike lane if you go in the bike lanes, you know? So I think that's a pretty good area. I mean... Other than, yeah, Riverside's a little bit busy of a street.

Marita: Oh yeah, probably down from for only. Can I just try the blue one?

Dustin: The light blue one?

Marita: The one in the back.

Dustin: You can try that one. That's a sample. I mean, if you liked it, I could, you know, sell you this one, but we don't make it. This was a sample from the factory. You can try. It's a little miniature, but see what you think. Your feedback is always welcome because we're always improving and changing the trikes. The other thing is that one too, the easy transit one.

Chris: That's folding, right?

Dustin: It's folding, but you don't have to fold it.

Chris: No, understood. I just don't understand how it folds. The one at the end there.

Marita: Really? I had a folding bike.

Dustin: Do you want to try this one? This one's a little bit more compact, with smaller tires. If you want to go for rides and do some pedaling, I like that one better for that. This one's a little bit more for close-range transportation. I mean, you have a more powerful motor. So if you're going to take on hills, this is better. But for leisurely riding, I like the EvryJourney because it has bigger tires so it'll roll a little easier. If you don't care about pedaling as much or you want to use the assistance, this one's a little better because, with the smaller wheels, you're going to have to work, not work harder necessarily, but you will have to make, two rotations to get these to cycle around the same as one rotation on those. So I say to people, you want to ride a trail, go out for a leisurely cruise on your tricycle, I like that one. Not that this one's not good for that, but this one you may want to be in the assistance the whole way. So we have a lot of people like over 55, 60, they still want to pedal more. A lot of younger kids don't want to pedal really. And so, you know, that one's more conducive to still riding it like a trike if you want to. And again, this one you can too, just smaller tires, so a little bit more work, you know. And also people that maybe want to bring this into stores, or it could fit on an elevator. It has a reverse option also. And then it folds right here. So this is your quick release down here. And then the frame kind of bends in half. So, you know, if you have a small place to store it.

Marita: Which is heavier?

Dustin: This one's heavier.

Marita: It looks heavier.

Dustin: So this one's aluminum. So that one's pretty light, even though it's bigger.

Marita: Exactly.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: This looks heavier.

Dustin: And then, of course, you have the front and the rear baskets, and then the Fender contraption back here is like three pounds in and of itself, like this whole piece, which you could take off if you wanted to.

Marita: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah, the footprint of that is larger. I don't know if that's the right way to say it, but that's what I noticed on the blue one it felt, I didn't feel like I was as stable on the blue one as I did on that one.

Marita: Oh, see, I had the opposite.

Chris: Oh, really? 

Dustin: You should try the Rickshaw too after you ride this one. You'll see because that one's bigger. But you may surprisingly feel stable on that one as well because it's got huge tires.

Chris: Right.

Marita: Yeah. Well, like again, going to Trader Joe’s.

Chris: Yeah.

Marita: Going to, since you know Burbank, so well the park stand on Clark, you live off Clark, you know that little stretch Trader Joe’s…

Chris: The path.

Marita: I know but I'm like I don't ride the way you ride. I ride to just go someplace. I'm more destination-oriented. I'm not like a pedal. No offense. So in some ways, the only thing is this feels high.

Dustin: So we can lower it a little bit. And then we can also tilt it in there. Well, I don't have the tool right now, but your seat's also low. I would say your knees are really, I can raise that if you want. I think you're a little, that's a little.

Chris: You get off it.

Marita: It is heavier, you can feel by far it’s heavier.

Dustin: Well, you're, you're also getting terrible leverage out of your leg, right?

Chris: Let him, let him raise the seat. 

Marita: All right.

Dustin: All right, there we go. Also, I don't know what gear you're in. It may be in a higher gear, which may be... Yeah, that's why it's a little bit harder for you to pedal. So this one, you push this up, but push it while you're moving. So start pedaling and now push it. Like... There you go. There's, like, you know bikes, there's a lot of people that, they don't understand what the gears, you can't push it while you're standing still. So everybody, their first instinct, not your wife, but your first things when a lot of people guys they start pushing everything, and I'm like, oh God.

Chris: Yeah. You’re pedaling more to travel the same distance.

Marita: I see what you mean.

Dustin: But do you like those handlebars?

Marita: Yeah. They're okay.

Dustin: Okay.

Marita: Why?

Dustin: Well, it's different. Some people like having them like right here. Some people like them here. Kind of depends.

Marita: They're in front of me.

Chris: It is what it is.

Marita: They're in front of me.

Dustin: Do you want to try the assistance on this one?

Marita: Yep. So what do I do?

Dustin: Okay, so we're gonna push and hold right here. Same deal, you're in one. So you can use…

Marita: My throttle.

Dustin: Yep, yep. So this one's a little more powerful.

Marita: Now when I hit the brake on this one but the assist didn’t go away.

Dustin: Really?

Marita: Yeah, check it out.

Dustin: Yeah you stopped.

Marita: Yes, but I thought you said that made it disengage.

Dustin: It will.

Marita: But I didn’t turn it on again.

Dustin: No, it'll just stop the motor. Like, you won't keep going, you know what I mean? So if you pull the brake, and I press this right here, pull the brake. See the motor doesn't work. See this it's showing this little engine cutoff switch here. So the minute you pull this, nothing, no assistance work.

Marita: I thought you meant it goes to like nothing.

Dustin: No, no, no. Okay yeah, you got to get a hang of easing into it.

Marita: And how do you turn it off?

Dustin: Put it down to zero. So if you want to leave the display on, put it to zero. If you want to turn it off completely, hold the power button. So the other cool thing is if you want to try this quick, not a big deal, but you can flip this to reverse. Now push this, just ease into that button. Yep. Ease into it. There you go. And start pedaling backward. So you have to reverse it if you would want it. You have to move the pedals backward. She's using the throttle to make it go backward, but yeah, you got to move your legs.

Chris: Oh I see.

Dustin: We probably need to put the handle. She's kind of tall, right? Or no?

Chris: Five nine.

Dustin: Yeah. Yeah. I think ideally we'd have the handlebars up a little bit for you too.

Chris: Yeah, it’s not in the lowest.

Marita: You can try it again.

Chris: All right.

Marita: I don't know.

Chris: What?

Marita: I like the color of this one.

Dustin: What color did you get? That color? Oh, that's a coincidence that we pulled that one out.

Marita: So if you go into a store and stuff, how would you lock that?

Dustin: Just a normal bike lock. Just make sure you lock it through the frame and to the tire. You can also…

Marita: To itself, though, or to... 

Dustin: Both to itself and to the frame. I would get a cable lock that you can extend. The battery, you know, if you wanted to take the battery off, you could. We went into a store, it'd be too much trouble.

Marita: Right. Well, I mean, you know how you lock bikes to buck likes? That's pretty big to do to a pole or…

Dustin: Yeah. Well, I would just do the front wheel and the fork.

Marita: And to itself?

Dustin: Yeah, and then to whatever bike rack you're using. Yeah, the brakes on yours won't make that noise and the fender won't be rubbing that's what you're hearing.

Chris: I trust that.

Dustin: These are our photo shoot trikes that have been through hundreds of miles of…

Chris: Is this the one that you put together on the video?

Dustin: Man, I don't remember. I think it was Peter. Probably not. But we use these in all the shoots and the videos and like riding videos and everything. This thing's probably been through thousands of miles.

Chris: So I hit what I thought was going to turn it off, but now I've got an error message. 

Dustin: There you go. Just right here, this one.

Chris: The same button that turns it on.

Dustin: Yep. What is the other button for?

Dustin: Uh. Oh. This will tell you, so. 

Chris: Toggling through.

Dustin: Yeah. So yeah, your triple odometer, your total odometer, your average speed for that ride, max speed.

Chris: Yep. It's very cute.

Marita: It's very cute.

Dustin: Have you seen all the accessories we have that match it?

Marita: No.

Chris: I have it online.

Dustin: Because you can get all sorts of bags back here. We have three different kinds. There's like a liner you could put in there. There's one with a lid you can put in. There's also a duffel bag-style one. And then there's of course all the frame bags. And the... And the matching helmet, too. But I mean, just like that one, we don't have the bags for. So, yeah, we have more sort of color-coordinated accessories for this one. But I don't know if you have a little pet.

Chris: No.

Dustin: Okay.

Chris: Just a cat.

Dustin: Okay.

Marita: Not cooperative.

Dustin: I just asked because there's a lot of people that like to bring their dogs, you know.

Chris: Sure, of course.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: They take them on strollers. 

Dustin: Yeah.

Chris: But the only front basket you have is either the canvas or the, you had a wicker one I think.

Dustin: Yeah, I mean you could always buy a basket somewhere else. A lot of the front baskets would mount down to the axle nut here and then over the handlebars if you needed something or you could do a bag on the front.

Chris: Right. On the other hand if you have a bag.

Marita: Did you try that?

Chris: Oh, no. I didn’t.

Marita: That's the faster one buddy.

Chris: It goes really fast. Really quick.

Marita: You understand that’s not their selling point. Can you just us how it is?

Dustin: Yeah Here come on this side. So just push this down, unfold it, then this has to click up. This folds in half like that and then there's a see that little thing underneath on the underside of the frame that's there so you can set it down on the ground. Yeah, and then this can fold down as well. So, you know if you wanted to put it in the back of your SUV or something. Yeah, and then you just fold this backup, click this in, and lock that out. Turn the handlebars this way, and there we go. And you just gotta click that up again. Goes in. Clamps down and you're set.

Chris: That has a disc brake and this one has sort of drum brake?

Dustin: Rear drum and front caliper because this one has only a 250-watt motor.

Chris: Right.

Dustin: So we didn't put the disc on there because usually they're traveling at lower speeds this one with the 750 you're gonna hit, we cap it at 16 miles an hour, but with the 750watt you could get up to 20. Yeah, so with the acceleration being more, we put the disc brake, so, yeah.

Chris: Yeah, this accelerated quickly.

Dustin: Uh-huh, uh-huh. And then you've got a little front suspension fork, although there's not much travel to that suspension.

Chris: This one had it too, and had the suspension for it.

Dustin: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

Dustin: Yeah, this one's a beast.

Marita: Yeah, how heavy is it?

Dustin: That one's 132 pounds. This one's about 70.

Chris: Can I ride this?

Dustin: Sure. That one's powerful, so just, I mean.

Chris: Yes, sir.

Dustin: Do you want a helmet or are you good?

Chris: No, I'm all right. I'm not going down the street. Let me put the seat up.

Dustin: Yeah, let me just make sure this thing turns on. Yup. Okay.

Chris: Wow, look at that display.

Dustin: This one's a twist throttle, just so you know. So it's like a motorcycle, so you twist it.

Chris: Okay. Is there a marker on your head?

Dustin: Like a max height?

Chris: Well, there was on that, on one of them.

Dustin: Yeah. That one.

Chris: I’ll just adjust this about right. And this is a 750 as well?

Dustin: Yep. That one's a rear hub motor.

Chris: Oh, yeah.

Dustin: This one's a front hub motor.

Chris: Okay.

Dustin: And that one's folding, too.

Chris: Yeah.

Dustin: And then the motor, the motor is off. Did you turn it on? The motor's off, so if you want to... And actually, I can put the handlebars up because you look like you're leaning over a little bit. These are quick releases. So you can.

Chris: Oh wow. Oh, I see. Look at that.

Dustin: That probably is going to feel a little bit better for you.

Chris: Let’s turn this on. I think one is enough for now.

Dustin: So this is... I hate to confuse you more.

Marita: No, it's not confusing.

Dustin: But this is gonna be a new one we have coming out, which is more of a recumbent style.

Marita: Yeah, it is. It's comfortable.

Dustin: I'd be curious to see what you think.

Marita: All right.

Chris: I need to see why the kids don’t want to pedal.

Dustin: And so here, I'll turn this on for you and go ahead and give it a shot. You can also twist the throttle here. So this one's nice if you twist it.

Marita: Oh that’s, this.

Dustin: Yep.

Chris: And what are the wheels on the back floor? Those are like rollers?

Dustin: Yeah, so if you want to pick it up and roll it, put it in somewhere, or if it comes off a curb, just to have contact with the curb.

Chris: Right, or if you pop a wheelie by accident.

Dustin: There you go.

Chris: Do the kids even still say pop a wheelie.

Dustin: I don't know. I'm not a kid either like I'm out of touch with what's cool and not cool.

Chris: What they use say.

Dustin: I don't know if they call it that, but I certainly see them around here on their e-bikes, no less.

Chris: Yeah. They’re like little motorcycles.

Marita: Do you want to try this?

Dustin: Sure. Well yeah, of course.

Marita: It’s very comfortable.

Chris: What does this do? Oh, these are armrests.

Dustin: Yeah.

Chris: Oh my God.

Dustin: You may not want that pad back there. I put those on there to bring the pedals a little closer.

Chris: Okay. Why is it stopping?

Dustin: Did you have the brake engaged?

Chris: Perhaps.

Dustin: I think you did. Yeah. No?

Chris: I'll let you look at it.

Dustin: Let me see. Oh, you know what? It was in reverse. There you go.

Chris: That’ll do it.

Marita: Don’t go so fast. That looks like one of those scooby things like people who really can't walk and stuff.

Dustin: Yep.

Marita: Gone mad. Looks like a danger to Walmart kind of.

Dustin: It's comfortable, though, isn't it?

Marita: Super comfortable. What's the price difference between these two?

Dustin: This one, you guys probably paid like $1,200.

Marita: Something like that.

Dustin: This one's $1,500.

Marita: Okay.

Chris: This one's very cool.

Marita: It is.

Chris: Yeah.

Marita: It's very comfortable.

Chris: It is super comfortable.

Marita: It's a little... You're not... Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

Dustin: I tell you what, I like riding that thing though.

Marita: Oh it’s, I mean come on.

Dustin: It crosses over into transportation, you know.

Chris: It's a comfort thing. You're not riding a bike or a trike. It just happens to have three wheels. It's very cool though.

Marita: I'll tell you what, we have what we have and I have to decide. Because I want, of course, what does not exist. I like the basket, the lines, the look. I prefer the motor and the way it gets going and all that kind of stuff. I like the size of this and the foldability. So I'm kind of… It’s not the money or the price differential anything as much as what I want is actually better for me.

Chris: What’s the difference between these?

Dustin: Very similar. Both of those are prototypes. Ultimately we have it coming out in June in production and it's going to be a hybrid of the two of those.

Marita: And keeping the higher back seat.

Dustin: Yeah, it's like a different... It's just a different trial run on the…

Chris: I could put my keyboard in front of the monitor.

Dustin: Those are office chairs. I mean, our factory just took a…

Marita: It looks like an armchair.

Dustin: Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to... Do you think you'll want a pedal?

Marita: Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, this is easier, but... Yes, this feels... I will... pedal more than I think using the electric. I mean I like it I like to get started first, especially because I don't think this is the type of vehicle that if you're the red light, you get off and stand up and get on, you know, you go. So a little smidge to help go is nice. I like that. I don't see myself doing like his kind of stuff. I just don't see it. So this is easier to pedal and ride.

Chris: This has a simplicity to it, which…

Marita: I mean, the lines and stuff are really beautiful. But you know I always talk about my folding bike from…

Chris: Yeah, I know, but your folding bike was something that would fold up like this. And you could carry it up the stairs.

Marita: I love that bike. I know. I'm always staring at it. This is that much bigger.

Chris: Right. Right. It's, you know, but the... the footprint isn't that much wider.

Marita: It isn't. It really isn't.

Dustin: Well, the width is going to be the same between these two.

Marita: It's an optical illusion.

Dustin: This one I'll bet you is wider because of those Fender brackets.

Marita: Really?

Dustin: Uh, I'll get a tape measure, but I'm almost, I mean. All right, well, I guess, yeah, you beat me to the punch.

Chris: Did the practical.

Dustin: Yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, I mean, both of these will fit through. It's 27 and a half inches. And then this one's, yeah, this one's more like... With the fender brackets, 30 and a half.

Marita: Wow, that is wide. I mean, you can, these are, honestly, these are optional.

Chris: Right.

Dustin: You can take those off and then it'll be, you know, two inches less per side. So. And I think standard doorways are like 36. So.

Marita: I think you got me the right one then.

Chris: Yeah.

Marita: I do like it.

Dustin: You know, worst case, if you did build it and rode it around and you hated it, we could always get it back at that point, too, you know? I mean, like, in the next whatever, however long till you have left on the 30 days, you know.

Chris: Right. We quit it. Got to our house.

Marita: Okay, how easy is it to assemble?

Chris: Pretty easy I mean..

Marita: Yeah, okay.

Chris: It's doable.

Marita: It's so beautiful. No, it is. It's a pretty bike.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: It is.

Dustin: This is one of the original. I started the company when I was working at Warner Brothers.

Marita: Oh, okay.

Dustin: I was an assistant to the head of business affairs at WB. Anyways, this was one of the, when I started, it was 2005. This was one of the original colorways, not of a trike, but of a different bike. And it's just stood the test of time. People have loved it.

Marita: I love it.

Dustin: We used to call it the Scholar because it has sort of that, you know, Ivy League-ish feel.

Marita: It's classic.

Dustin: Yep.

Marita: Ralph Lauren-y kind of color.

Dustin: Yep. And we're one of the only bike companies that I use brown seats and grips on every bike, except for some of the men's bikes because, not these, but most men are black on black. I like to get creative with the colors for men, but unfortunately it always sort of reverts to black on black for 80%.

Marita: It's very beautiful. And the... It's not easy to do like you said, but it does come off.

Dustin: Mm-hmm. I mean, yeah, it's easy to pull off. So…

Chris: And it's a USB connector to an outlet?

Dustin: So to charge, it's a... Not a USB, it's a…

Chris: Well, proprietary.

Dustin: This is a USB to charge your phone or something. This is just a plug, and then you plug it into an outlet to charge it.

Marita: Wow, that's so cool.

Chris: And it comes with that plug-in.

Dustin: Yes, correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this bike is all UL compliant. So we had it all tested, the battery and the electronics.

Chris: When I saw that, that was important.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: Well that’s really easy.

Dustin: Yeah, and so if you take this with you... Yeah, no one can steal the battery you know.

Marita: Oh. Oh. Okay. That's good.

Chris: Okay, so you... Oh, that…

Dustin: Turn it, now take the battery off.

Chris: Oh, I see, I see.

Dustin: Yep. Put it all the way down.

Chris: Uh-huh. Yeah. And then snap it in?

Dustin: You gotta get this piece, like, right in there, if you can see it. There you go. Now you got it. Yep.

Marita: Okay. That's good. But if you take the key, they can't take it out.

Chris: Right.

Marita: So I was never going to think about it.

Dustin: Yeah. And you could always carry your lock in the basket, you know, or get another bag or something to put it in.

Marita: Or around my neck as a teacher. You know a lanyard that you make at camp or something.

Dustin: Are there a lot of kids on e-bikes in your area too?

Chris: Yeah.

Dustin: Oh, yeah.

Marita: Really? I never even noticed them.

Chris: I go riding in Griffith Park.

Dustin: Oh yeah. Are they allowed in Griffith Park? Oh, they are.

Chris: They just passed me on the hills.

Dustin: A lot of the trails and other trails are outlawing them now, you know?

Chris: Well you can’t ride them on the dirt.

Dustin: Dirt trail? 

Chris: The dirt trail in Griffith part on the road.

Dustin: And you do road biking? Yeah. So yeah, you're averaging what? 15, 16, 17 miles an hour anyways.

Chris: If I'm lucky.

Dustin: Oh, you're lucky.

Chris: I mean, I've gotten... Faster what?

Marita: I said going up or coming down.

Chris: Yeah, flat.

Marita: Well, okay. I'm sorry to take so much of your time.

Dustin: No, of course.

Marita: For a sale that's already been sold. But I had to... I didn't know whether to even take it out of the box because I just wasn't sure.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: But it is gorgeous. And everyone's going to be jealous.

Dustin: Do you want to see any of the bags or do you not care? I can show you some of the bags, too, if you want to see them.

Marita: Yeah, you can show me them.

Dustin: Sure. Yeah, while you're in person.

Marita: Oh, that's pretty.

Dustin: Yeah. So this is one... It kind of makes the whole bike look a lot better. But yeah, you've got a little pouch right here. Put your keys or whatnot in. And then you can open it up and just going to put stuff in there. Got a little pouch here.

Marita: Yeah, that's nice.

Chris: So we could put the cat in there.

Dustin: That's right.

Marita: It's pretty. And the bike, the one that goes on the front is similar in color and scheme?

Dustin: Yeah, we have a whole bunch, but they all would mean the fabrics are all the same.

Marita: Right.

Dustin: So, for the front, for this one, I'm trying to think, I think we have the reverse too. So we have where the body is orange and the top is cream and then the same with these, we have cream or orange, depending on how you want to mix or match. But this one could almost be enough in and of itself. Since you have this pouch inside too if you want to put your keys or little things or whatever in there.

Marita: Why doesn't this bike say…

Dustin: sixthreezero?

Marita: Yeah.

Dustin: When I originally started the company, my whole design premise was to be as minimalistic as possible. Yeah, I understand that. But then after we've sold thousands of bikes, I realized, well, we should probably have our name on... the bikes so I've started to do it even though honestly like I prefer the simplicity to…

Marita: No, I do too.

Dustin: Yeah.

Marita: I'm just thinking if I start riding this around unless there well…

Dustin: It's on the seat I guess.

Marita: Oh yeah okay, they can find it. Those who want to know.

Dustin: Yeah I mean you'll for sure get people asking you because you don't see this color very often.

Marita: Oh no I'm telling you. A star among many. Perfect. Okay. Well, I'm keeping this bike. Yeah. And then you get all these online, right?

Chris: Yeah.

Marita: You got the bike online, so.

Dustin: Yeah, that's free shipping, so if you want to, you can look at them, do what you want, you know.

Chris: And we bought the bike from you rather than, from the company rather than a secondary site.

Dustin: Yup. Cool.

Marita: Which is why we drove two hours to get there.

Dustin: Well, go to lunch in San Clemente or something. I don't know if you have to get back to work, but.

Chris: Not today, no. No, she has her eye on the outlet mall, so.

Dustin: Okay, yeah.

Marita: And there are grandchildren that we pass on the way home, so.

Dustin: Cool, well, if you have any questions or need anything, you can always email us and, yeah.

Marita: It's really a beautiful bike.

Dustin: And join our Facebook group, too, if you do Facebook. You can join the pedaling.

Marita: I am proud to say I've never. I've never had a Facebook.

Dustin: Okay. Well, if you ever are inclined, you can connect with other people. There's a lot of people. And on our app.

Chris: Do you have an Instagram account?

Dustin: We do.

Chris: Okay, well, we can do that. Well, that's a different story.

Dustin: But the group is good just because you can talk to other people. And, in the app, there's some lady that has this bike right now who's, like, in the top in the leaderboard for, like, miles logged every week.

Marita: Oh, really?

Dustin: On her electric trike, yeah.

Chris: Yeah, you're going to need to get a Strava account.

Marita: I don't need a strava. And by the way, if you're using the motor, like, how does that count?

Chris: Come on.

Marita: I'm just saying.

Dustin: It's a great debate. Oh, there's this. That's another style. I had him pull out. But yeah. Sure. Thanks. Yeah, this is more of like a duffel bag one.

Chris/Marita: Oh.

Chris: And it fits in the back. You don't have to open it.

Dustin: No, it's fine. It's fine. Don't worry. Yeah, this one…

Chris: It has a carrying strap.

Dustin: Yeah, so if you wanted to like bring it into the store, you always could. Yeah. So, like today, right over the outlet mall.

Marita: Right.

Dustin: Yeah, and then that mouse.

Marita: Yeah, that looks pretty. Yeah. So, did you design the bike?

Dustin: I hire... So the... When I originally started the company, I had three partners. We each three picked a colorway. This one was my design, so I picked this color scheme. For all the bags, I hire third-party designers to do the textiles. And they present different colorway options and things for me. And then I sort of have final approval, you know.

Marita: But well, this is gorgeous.

Dustin: Thank you.

Marita: It is. I just wanted to make sure that a pretty face didn’t steal me from the better option for me but... You know what I mean.

Dustin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marita: So pretty but practically speaking that would have been better but I think this is the best.

Dustin: It's funny, I just made a video kind of commenting about that though, how I said the look of your bike is important because if you love your bike, you will want to be out on that bike more.

Marita: No, that’s true.

Dustin: I think for men it's a little bit different because we're more about the specs and the performance a little more. But I think if you love it, you'll want people to see you riding it. That was kind of my goal with our bikes to try to turn it into a little bit more of an accessory, like, you know, like to show it off versus like bags and purses. Yeah.

Marita: Hey, if you're gonna make something, it might as well be beautiful. No, I'm not kidding.

Dustin: Yeah, yeah.

Marita: Instead of all these box buildings and stuff, make something beautiful.

Dustin: Cool. Well, I'm glad you liked it. That's true.

Marita: Because they were beautiful. All right.

Chris: All right, are we ready?

Marita: I think we're ready. Thank you so much.

Dustin: Yeah, nice meeting both of you. Yeah, enjoy the bike. Any questions or need anything, email us or call us. Enjoy your outlet shopping.

Chris: We will. I hope you get more customers today, too.

Dustin: All right, thank you.